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Jehovah’s Witnesses’ UN Prophecy Fails Again: Trump’s Win Proves Them Wrong

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/-kdbs3lcsx8?si=icfla8tzg0p_wdcz.

the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses (gb) has done it again—another bold prophecy, another epic fail.

during their 2024 annual meeting, they confidently announced that the nations of the world would soon hand over their power to the united nations.

raymond frantz

@nowwhat?

I know you did about this a month ago, I find your posts thought provoking and helped me write the article adding my take, I hope you don't mind

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Jehovah’s Witnesses’ UN Prophecy Fails Again: Trump’s Win Proves Them Wrong

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/-kdbs3lcsx8?si=icfla8tzg0p_wdcz.

the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses (gb) has done it again—another bold prophecy, another epic fail.

during their 2024 annual meeting, they confidently announced that the nations of the world would soon hand over their power to the united nations.

raymond frantz

https://youtu.be/-KdBS3LcSX8?si=ICFLA8tzG0P_wDCz

The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses (GB) has done it again—another bold prophecy, another epic fail. During their 2024 Annual Meeting, they confidently announced that the nations of the world would soon hand over their power to the United Nations. In their narrative, the UN is destined to rise as the ultimate global authority, fulfilling their interpretation of biblical prophecy. Sounds dramatic, right? The problem is, their prediction seems completely detached from the reality unfolding around us—especially after one critical event they didn’t see coming: Donald Trump’s victory in the 2024 U.S. presidential election.
Let’s take a moment to unpack this. Trump, love him or hate him, is famous for his disdain for the United Nations. Throughout his first term, he made it crystal clear that he views the UN as a toothless bureaucracy that undermines national sovereignty. His “America First” policies prioritized pulling away from globalist agendas, cutting funding to international bodies, and renegotiating agreements to benefit the United States. It’s safe to say that Trump is the last person on Earth who would willingly hand over power to the UN. Yet, the Governing Body apparently based their prediction on the assumption that a Democrat—traditionally more supportive of international cooperation—would remain in office. Oops.
With Trump’s win, the GB’s prophecy is already looking shakier than a toddler’s Jenga tower. There’s simply no plausible scenario where a Trump administration leads or supports a global power transfer to the UN. If anything, his presidency is likely to weaken the organization even further. Under Trump’s leadership, the U.S. is expected to double down on its sovereignty-first approach, encouraging other nationalist leaders to follow suit. This makes the notion of a UN takeover not just improbable but downright laughable.
But that’s not all. The geopolitical scene in Europe is heating up, and not in a way that suggests a coordinated shift toward global unity. Tensions with Russia are escalating, and some speculate that globalist factions may be pushing for a major war as a way to regain control or disrupt nationalist movements. If true, this adds another layer of unpredictability to an already volatile situation. In such a climate, the idea of nations willingly surrendering their power to the UN feels like something out of a poorly written dystopian novel.
And that’s where the Governing Body seems to misstep repeatedly. They look at the world as if it operates on a predictable script, one conveniently aligned with their interpretation of Bible prophecy. But the real world is messy, chaotic, and full of unexpected turns—like Trump winning an election most political commentators thought was a long shot. If the GB truly had divine insight, wouldn’t they have seen this coming? Wouldn’t their predictions align more closely with what’s actually happening?
Of course, this isn’t the first time the Governing Body has missed the mark with their prophetic declarations. Their history is littered with failed predictions, from the infamous 1975 Armageddon fiasco to more recent claims about world events aligning with their timeline. Each time, they find a way to reframe their narrative or shift the goalposts, leaving their followers to rationalize the inconsistencies. It’s a pattern that raises serious questions about their claim to divine guidance. At what point does one stop being a prophet and start being just a bad guesser?
The Governing Body’s latest prophecy seems to be more of the same. Rather than being based on any unique spiritual insight, it appears to be a mishmash of current events, wishful thinking, and their longstanding obsession with the United Nations. But as much as they might want the UN to fit the role of the “scarlet-colored wild beast” from Revelation, reality just isn’t cooperating. The UN is far from the global powerhouse they imagine—it’s more like a dysfunctional club where nations argue and little gets done. Suggesting it’s on the verge of ruling the world is as outlandish as predicting the local PTA will take over Congress.
So, what’s the takeaway here? Once again, the Governing Body has shown that their prophetic crystal ball is more like a cloudy snow globe. They’re not reading the future; they’re just making guesses and hoping the pieces fall into place. And when they don’t, they’ll either quietly move the goalposts or come up with a convenient reinterpretation. Maybe it’s time for them to stop pretending they’ve got a direct line to God and start paying closer attention to what’s actually happening in the world. Or better yet, maybe it’s time they admit that prophecy isn’t their strong suit.
For now, though, it seems we’re stuck with more of the same—bold predictions, epic fails, and a lot of explaining to do. If nothing else, their track record provides a valuable lesson: when someone claims to know the future, especially in as much detail as the Governing Body does, it’s worth taking a step back and asking if they’ve gotten it right before. Spoiler alert: they haven’t.

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Any Other Ex Jw in Greece?

by Stelios99 in

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are there any other ex jw in greece to exchange experiences and chat?

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raymond frantz

Yes I'm Greek, pm me

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

raymond frantz

I don't know what is more pathetic his constant begging for money or the gullible comments on this video ,people who immediately subscribed to his patreon, it never ends.

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Reply to Redhorsewoman on prayer.

by spectromize in

hi redhw,.

i've been having a few problems with my computer so anyways i thought i'd reply to you in a new thread.. you said:" spectromize, i disagree with your assertion that because someone is not a jw, their prayers must therefore be answered by satan.".

i never asserted or even said that.

raymond frantz

AtLeastImNot, of course

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Reply to Redhorsewoman on prayer.

by spectromize in

hi redhw,.

i've been having a few problems with my computer so anyways i thought i'd reply to you in a new thread.. you said:" spectromize, i disagree with your assertion that because someone is not a jw, their prayers must therefore be answered by satan.".

i never asserted or even said that.

raymond frantz

Is this the first ever post here? That was 25 years ago!!!

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THE LONG ANTICIPATED INTERVIEW OF THE 2 NEW GB MEMBERS

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/dxyjupnklgi?si=2ux5wokg57xdpaob.

here we have the more indepth interview of the two new gb members jody jodele & jacob rumph and what jumps out to me is how borring they are, interestingly they don't go into detail when it dawned on them when they became anointed but they only go though their history and how they ended up in bethel.

as we already know jody jodele is the real estate expert that will help the gb capitalise on all this real estate money and jacob rumph sounds he spend alot of time as a missionary in south america, maybe he will provide a more insightful understanding of that continent to the gb since no indigenous jw will be part of the gb anytime soon.now what strikes to me as odd is the examples they both sited as the bible characters they want to relate more with, and no it is not jesus.. these modern-day governing body of jehovah's witnesses seems to be leaning heavily on old testament figures like moses and gideon as their role models instead of focusing on jesus, which speaks volumes about the kind of organization they’re leading.

raymond frantz

https://youtu.be/DxYJuPnKlgI?si=2ux5WoKg57Xdpaob

Here we have the more indepth interview of the two new gb members Jody Jodele & Jacob Rumph and what jumps out to me is how borring they are, interestingly they don't go into detail when it dawned on them when they became anointed but they only go though their history and how they ended up in Bethel. As we already know Jody Jodele is the real estate expert that will help the gb capitalise on all this real estate money and Jacob Rumph sounds he spend alot of time as a missionary in South America, maybe he will provide a more insightful understanding of that continent to the gb since no indigenous jw will be part of the gb anytime soon.Now what strikes to me as odd is the examples they both sited as the Bible characters they want to relate more with, and no it is not Jesus.

These modern-day Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses seems to be leaning heavily on Old Testament figures like Moses and Gideon as their role models instead of focusing on Jesus, which speaks volumes about the kind of organization they’re leading. This is a big deal—it's almost like they've turned back the clock to align themselves with the Pharisees, who famously clung to Moses as their guide rather than embracing the teachings of Jesus.

When you look at the early Christian apostles like Paul and Peter, they didn’t tell followers to imitate Moses or Gideon. Instead, they urged everyone to follow Jesus’ example. Paul even said, “Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.” The entire point of early Christianity was to move beyond the legalistic, rule-based approach of the Old Covenant and to embrace the freedom and grace that Jesus brought.

But here we are, with the Governing Body in 2024 pointing to Old Testament figures as examples, just like the Pharisees did. The Pharisees stuck to the letter of the law, citing Moses as their father, which kept them in a rigid, rules-focused mindset. The Governing Body’s choice to align themselves with Old Testament leaders like Moses and Gideon rather than with Jesus and his apostles feels like a step backward. It’s almost as if they’re more interested in enforcing strict rules and hierarchy than in fostering the compassionate, grace-filled approach that Jesus taught.

So, what does this say about the organization? It suggests that they’re more concerned with authority, control, and sticking to their own “laws” than with following the example of Jesus, who prioritized love, humility, and personal faith. When you think about it, choosing Moses over Jesus as a role model really does reveal where their priorities lie.

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WHY THE WATCHTOWER TREATS MEN LIKE DONKEYS OF BURDEN

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/tppmprdxxzw?si=shh5vkmuzfp6c9_m.

so the watchtower has come out with sn article, study article 2 in their newly released study watchtower magazine for 2025 and we see from the start how they keep perpetuating the same old outdated narrative that when it comes to marriages the husband is the one at fault, we'll thats i think when i read paragraph from this article where i man has to work on a whole list of things and not once the wife is instructed to do any of these things, but let's just read together paragraph 14:.

what are these steps?

raymond frantz

I personally find quite lazy intellectually for the watchtower to be pointing the finger at the husband only especially in 2024 when we know that pendulum has swang towards women's rights especially within the marriage

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WHY THE WATCHTOWER TREATS MEN LIKE DONKEYS OF BURDEN

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/tppmprdxxzw?si=shh5vkmuzfp6c9_m.

so the watchtower has come out with sn article, study article 2 in their newly released study watchtower magazine for 2025 and we see from the start how they keep perpetuating the same old outdated narrative that when it comes to marriages the husband is the one at fault, we'll thats i think when i read paragraph from this article where i man has to work on a whole list of things and not once the wife is instructed to do any of these things, but let's just read together paragraph 14:.

what are these steps?

raymond frantz

https://youtu.be/tpPmprDXxzw?si=Shh5vKmuzFP6C9_m

So the Watchtower has come out with sn article, study article 2 in their newly released Study Watchtower magazine for 2025 and we see from the start how they keep perpetuating the same old outdated narrative that when it comes to marriages the husband is the one at fault, we'll thats I think when I read paragraph from this article where I man has to work on a whole list of things and not once the wife is instructed to do any of these things, but let's just read together paragraph 14:

A husband who physically or verbally abuses his wife needs to take additional steps to repair his relationship with Jehovah and with his wife. What are these steps? First, he recognizes that he has a serious problem. Nothing is hidden from Jehovah’s sight. (Ps. 44:21; Eccl. 12:14; Heb. 4:13) Second, he stops abusing his wife and changes his behavior. (Prov. 28:13) Third, he apologizes to his wife and to Jehovah and seeks their forgiveness. (Acts 3:19) He should also beg Jehovah for both the desire to change and the help to control his thoughts, speech, and actions. (Ps. 51:10-12; 2 Cor. 10:5; Phil. 2:13) Fourth, he acts in harmony with his prayers by learning to hate all forms of violence and abusive speech. (Ps. 97:10) Fifth, he seeks immediate help from loving shepherds in the congregation. (Jas. 5:14-16) Sixth, he develops a plan that will help him to avoid all such behavior in the future. A husband who views pornography should follow these same steps. Jehovah will bless his efforts to change his behavior. (Ps. 37:5) But it is not enough for a husband to reject dishonorable conduct. He also needs to learn to show honor to his wife. How can he do that?

In this paragraph, the Watchtower seems to take us on a guided tour back in time with its traditional, almost antiquated perspective on marriage, where the husband is tasked with not only mending his mistakes but also constantly appeasing and accommodating his wife's needs. It's as if, in the Watchtower’s ideal marriage, the wife is a delicate, innocent creature, perpetually in need of care, understanding, and endless apologies. Meanwhile, the husband shoulders all the blame for relationship issues and must go through an extensive, almost ritualistic process to redeem himself—complete with a checklist that reads more like a medieval penance guide than modern relationship advice. Let's explore for a moment this skewed portrayal of responsibility in this perspective and highlight Watchtower's outdated gender dynamics that, in 2025, feel like they belong in a dusty old rulebook.

First, let’s unpack the premise: "A husband who physically or verbally abuses his wife needs to take additional steps to repair his relationship with Jehovah and his wife." While it’s undoubtedly a good thing that abusive behavior is condemned, this paragraph places all the responsibility squarely on the husband's shoulders. It implies that men alone are the ones to blame in marital discord, and it is always they who must take the initiative to fix things. There's no recognition of the complexities of modern relationships, where accountability often falls on both partners and where a successful marriage is typically built on mutual respect and shared effort. In 2025, it’s hard to ignore that women, too, play a significant role in the dynamics of a relationship. But here, they are strangely absent from any accountability, cast instead as passive recipients of the husband's actions and behaviors.

Next, let’s take a look at the steps the Watchtower proposes. The husband must first “recognize that he has a serious problem” and remember that “nothing is hidden from Jehovah’s sight.” This is step one in a six-point rehabilitation plan that makes it clear that the husband alone is in the hot seat. It’s almost like a spiritual version of an anger management workshop—just without any actual tools for communication or emotional intelligence that might actually help both partners. The paragraph then tells him to stop abusing his wife, apologize profusely, pray fervently, and reach out to congregation elders. Each step paints the husband as not only the perpetrator but also the sole fixer, while his wife is conveniently positioned as the injured party, free from any need for growth or responsibility herself.

Now, don’t get me wrong—stopping abusive behaviour, apologizing, and seeking help are all positive steps. But the real issue here is the oversimplified and one-sided portrayal of a marital relationship. Abuse in any form is, of course, unacceptable and should be addressed with sincerity and urgency. However, the Watchtower’s insistence on placing the blame entirely on the husband paints an unrealistic picture where the wife is perpetually innocent, vulnerable, and passive. It overlooks the complexity of human relationships, where both partners bring their own flaws, struggles, and, yes, responsibilities to the table. Where’s the guidance for women to reflect on their own behaviour, communicate their needs respectfully, or contribute to the relationship’s health?

Then there’s the statement about pornography, which lumps all husbands who view it into the same category as those who engage in abusive behavior. It’s quite a leap to place both issues under the same "steps to repentance" umbrella. By doing so, the Watchtower equates vastly different behaviors as equally damaging, creating unnecessary shame and guilt. Again, it’s the husband who must grovel and reform himself under the ever-watchful eye of Jehovah and his wife, with no mention of any constructive dialogue between the couple. It’s a dynamic straight out of a bygone era, ignoring the fact that, today, healthy relationships are built on open communication, mutual respect, and shared responsibilities.

The paragraph wraps up by adding that it’s not enough for the husband to just avoid bad behavior; he also “needs to learn to show honor to his wife.” This, of course, is a commendable sentiment, but it further perpetuates the imbalance. He needs to “honor her” with no corresponding mention of the wife honoring her husband, meeting his needs, or working alongside him to cultivate a loving, balanced relationship. The burden to “do better” is placed entirely on him, implying that only the husband has room for improvement, and his wife is, by default, blameless.

In 2025, where most people understand that a successful marriage requires both partners to contribute equally, this approach feels laughably outdated. It's as though the Watchtower is operating on an old-fashioned script, where women are delicate flowers, and men are rough rocks that need endless polishing to be worthy of them. Gone is any mention of mutual accountability, shared emotional labor, or reciprocal support. Instead, men are cast as the sole bearers of responsibility for a marriage’s health, while women float along, seemingly without a care in the world other than waiting for their husbands to step up.

The irony, of course, is that this overly simplistic dynamic does a disservice to both men and women. Men are saddled with an unfair level of blame and responsibility, while women are denied the opportunity to take ownership of their role in the relationship. The paragraph misses the chance to encourage both partners to reflect, grow, and work together to build a harmonious, balanced marriage. Instead, it clings to an outdated model that paints men as perpetual fixers and women as delicate, morally superior beings whose needs must be endlessly met.

In the end, this guidance from the Watchtower might have been relevant decades ago, but in today’s world, it feels out of touch. Marriage is a partnership, not a one-sided project where only one person needs to “do better” or take responsibility. True intimacy and respect are built on mutual accountability, open communication, and a shared commitment to growth. It’s time the Watchtower acknowledged that in a healthy relationship, both partners have room to improve, contribute, and honor each other—equally.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-january-2025/Husbands-Honor-Your-Wife/

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

raymond frantz

What I find funny is that he is back on the blond bleached hair, the "professor" look didn't last long